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Has anyone else read the poor constant reviews of the
Diesel mokka.
I take reviews lightly but I think it was the telegraph that said
It's a blessing when the stop/start kicks in because the engine is
So noisy and unrefined. Does this engine go in any other vauxhall
And can anyone comment on first hand experience of this engine.
Or is it a case of a journalist getting out of a merc and jumping into
A mokka and comparing like for like.
 

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I've seen these reviews and they do seem to make disappointing reading. Of more concern (to me) are reports that 2014 will see the introduction of a new up to date and more refined 1.6 diesel in the Mokka to replace that available at launch.

I much prefer diesels, not for the economy but for the increased torque at lower revs. I will now however be very keen to try the 1.4 turbo as an alternative to see if it has the power to move along the 4WD Mokka at anything like an acceptable rate.

Very much looking forward to the first owners reports we get on this forum.
 

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This is their official blurb on the engines available;









Mokka is available with a choice of three efficient engines. All manual transmissions are equipped with start/stop. Two petrol engines are available including a 1.6-litre (115PS) naturally aspirated engine with a five-speed manual transmission achieving 43.5mpg and combined CO<sub>2 </sub>emissions of 153 g/km. Torque is 155Nm at 4,000 rpm.


The second petrol unit is a 1.4-litre Turbo (140PS) that achieves 44.1mpg and combined CO<sub>2 </sub>of 149 g/km. AWD is standard and there is 200Nm of torque (at between 1,850 and 4,900 rpm). This engine has an alloy cylinder head and maintenance-free valve operation and is offered with a six-speed manual transmission. Later, it will be available with a six-speed automatic transmission. The manual six-speed 4x4 turbocharged Mokka reaches a top speed of 118mph and does 0-60mph in 9.4 seconds.


The turbocharged four-cylinder has an electronic engine control unit for even more precise combustion control as well as friction optimised components. Dual overhead camshafts with variable valve timing drive the four valves per cylinder. A variable-flow oil pump supplies the engine with the necessary lubrication. Saving even more fuel is the electronically controlled thermostat that ensures the best possible thermal engine management. When operating at full capacity it cools the engine, while during partial load operation it maintains a constant temperature.


Customers who prefer diesel engines can order the Mokka with a 1.7CDTi (130PS) turbocharged unit with a maximum torque of 300Nm (at between 2,000 and 2,500 rpm). This engine is available with a six-speed manual ""˜box with either front-wheel drive or AWD, or as a six-speed automatic with front-wheel drive. As a front-wheel drive with a manual gearbox the diesel unit achieves 62.8mpg and 120g/km CO<sub>2 </sub>emissions, making it one of the most fuel-efficient models in its segment. The performance figures speak for themselves: with a six-speed manual gear box and front-wheel drive the Mokka achieves a top speed of 116mph and does 60mph 10.5 seconds.


The 1.7CDTI engine has innovative ""Clean Tech""� technology with pressure sensors integrated in to the cylinders, ensuring best possible combustion control. The end result: a significant reduction of nitrogen oxides (NOx) and dust particles plus maximum fuel efficiency. A third generation common rail system operates with injection pressures of up to 1,600 bar. Electro-magnetic injectors ensure very precise combustion control.
 

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I think it might be the same engine as used in the Asta GTC;http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/vauxhall-astra-gtc-1-7-cdti-130-review/263158 andhttp://www.parkers.co.uk/company-cars/news-and-advice/latest-news/2012/may/vauxhall-astra-gtc-17-130-cdti-sri-start-stop-manual-road-test-/

The review says;

Parkers said:
We tested the mid-range SRi model with a 1.7-litre diesel engine. With an output of 128bhp and 300Nm of pulling power, the engine allows the GTC to dispatch the 0-60mph sprint in areasonable 10 seconds. Its top speed is 122mph.Despite the engine's relatively small displacement it is flexible and punchy, although it can be quite noisy when accelerating hard from lower speeds. At cruising speeds it's quite refined, however, and there's plenty of in-gear pull to allow for overtaking when necessarily.


Edited by: Dan
 

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well that sounds a bit more promising. ive had several diesels from a honda accord 2.2 to a mazda 2.2 and an old astra 1.7 and they all sound noisy and coarse at full throttle.

keep fingers crossed the insulation and sound deadening are ok.
 
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